Sunday, March 30, 2014

Things you may See, They ain't Necessarily So.

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Dog Poet Transmitting.......

May your noses always be cold and wet.

I suppose we are all familiar with the recent law passed by the Zionist Supreme Court, which states that wealthy gangsters can give as much money as they want to political parties through a third party. It should come as no surprise who was behind that law, which effectively grants control of the government to the highest bidder. Of course it would be the same people taking advantage of that law who were behind the legislation, which was part of the push to confer personhood upon corporations.

The Republican candidates for Catamite in Chief have just gone to the seat of Satan (Las Vegas) in the U.S. to pledge their fealty at the dais, upon which his cloven hooves are tapping. Those familiar with Satanic ritual are aware that it's not the fiends finger 'ring' that they will be kissing.

If you are looking for parallels between the morphing of Nature and the morphing of culture, you don't have to look very far. Those who don't think 'grooming' is at work behind the scenes in the Gay Tribe agenda haven't been watching recent episodes of American Idol or checking the "lies, dammed lies and statistics."

Yes... studies confirm what one would suspect but with are shouted down at a hysterical pitch. As I have often said, I didn't start out with a firm conviction of what the truth was; except where its obvious. I went where the truth took me and as I have also stated, I have sometimes wished it hadn't taken me where it did, given how it has impacted on my career. Of course, that's not true, my love of truth is greater than my passion for a career and I doubt the quality of any art that does not contain the truth. That sort of art can expect the longevity of a daily newspaper. Once again, there's that glaring coincidence at work, concerning who has control of certain industries and for which reasons, i.e. The Tribe controls the art world.

Okay; why am I bringing up subjects more fitting for the other blogs than for Visible Origami? In the external world there is a war on for the attention and following perception of the general public. In the internal world, there is also a war going on; a war against Heaven. This is when the infernal realms have shanghaied enough of the human population that an assault can be mounted. Let's keep in mind that Heaven is a state of mind. Let us return to that quatrain from Omar Khayyam; "I sent my soul into the invisible, some letter of that after life to spell and... by and by my soul returned to me and said, "I myself am Heaven and Hell."" So... these things need to be understood in their proper context. The idea that an infernal power could ever seriously challenge the power of Heaven is ludicrous but... the 'appearance' of it happening is all that matters. If the appearance of it can generate a collective despair in the human heart and if life can be pushed so out of joint from familiar ground and Nature be bent and twisted beyond recognition then the desired result is effected. The Earth is a battleground in the war for souls.

Appearances are the most convincing of lies. In The Tarot Major Arcana, The Devil card is associated with the letter, Ayin (the eye). This is a direct reference to the deceptive nature of appearances. If you can see past, or beyond appearances, then you can also see the outline of the angel of light, as a corona around The Devil. The Devil is an absurd construct, a fabrication of the fear based mind. The Devil is the way that God appears to the wicked. "Even The Devil is transformed into an angel of light at the given moment, be not deceived." Short sheeted Biblical scholars like to say that what this means is that he is transformed into an angel of light for the purpose of deception, the same way a demon will pose as a beautiful woman. In my universe, everyone works for God whether they know it or not. I guess you can interpret it how you please.

It's like that BS about the serpent in the Garden of Eden. They understand it in The East, where serpents and dragons are properly understood or... more so than in The West. The Serpent power is the impetus to Godhead and this is noted in the cobra 'hood' over the heads of Hindu and Buddhist deities. Sometimes you see one, sometimes three, sometimes five and sometimes seven. True... at its point of origin, it is a primal and raw force and when it manifests in application, through the bottom three chakras, you get much of what you see in the world today but... once it has risen to the higher chakras it becomes divine. Below it is infernally inspired and above it is divinely inspired or... one might say, infernally expressed and divinely expressed. So... scripture is true and not true, or more correctly stated, incomplete. This relates to the traditions that are never written down but only transmitted in oral fashion. This also has to do with the corruptions of mysteries that have compromised The Masons and other organizations.

Most people don't get what's really taking place here. These organizations are corrupted by design. The external order is rendered vulnerable to corruption for the purpose of demonstration. On the esoteric side, corruption can only proceed to a certain level. Evil intent and focused will power, cannot influence the activities of the angels who are direct expressions of the qualities and abilities of the divine. Only the corrupt can serve the corrupt. If you are resident below a certain level of demarcation, you are in the corruption zone. If you are above it you are not. Strive to be above it. The pull downward is exceedingly strong in these times because the promise and possibility of reward is so great. Mind that reality!

Some will see Hell on Earth and some will see Heaven on Earth and some will wander in the shades. In many cases that is, 'yet to be determined'. How does the day find you and whose business are you about? Why are you here? One might say that people are here for the actions they demonstrate, as in, "by their works ye shall know them." It is the case that many are engaged in pursuits other than the real reason they are here. They have been seduced into these things by appearances.

We've all heard that phrase, "Things are not what they seem." We've heard that phrase, "as above so below". One might therefore assume that there is a similarity of dissension in Heaven as there is on Earth. If there is anything resembling that, it is for the purpose of demonstration. At no time, ever, is the ineffable not in control of everything; not ever.

Take notice of what is taking place around you and inside you. External conditions appear increasingly dire. Internally, many of us are experiencing depression and confusion, uncertainty and fear of want. If you had the script of life in your hands, you could read the intents and designs. You could fast forward to outcomes. Or... if you were on speaking terms with The Director, you might hear all kinds of things; "It ain't necessarily so.It ain't necessarily so. The t'ings dat yo' li'ble, To read in de Bible, it ain't necessarily so."

Question everything but... once it proves to be true, in such things as you find compatible, in the spiritual sense, embrace them with all your heart. Others may embrace any number of things. To each their own, according to their acquired tastes.

If a person's mind is bent, or if it is clouded by desire, seeing things as they are and accessing the simplicity of a clear perspective is next to impossible. Ergo, everything appears complex and confusing because the mind of the perceiver is compromised by conflicting cross purposes (that's a double something or other) and they see a man with a gun instead of a tree with branches, or a wolf instead of a dog. They jump at shadows that are substantial to the degree that they are believed in. "Faith is the substance of things unseen". That quote cuts at least two ways, like the other quote. How you come to have faith in something is that you test it and you question it, or you swallow it blind. You try the metal of it by personal experience, through example or through a resonance in the heart. How can it be of any value to you unless you have proven it out? How can you have faith in it unless it is real to you?

We keep thinking, something's going to happen. Days pass and things do happen but not what we keep expecting. One of these days it will, or it won't but it's not worth organizing your life around it. There are far more important things one can be concerned with should one choose to be. They ain't necessarily so, they ain't necessarily so, things you may see when you're riding with me, they ain't necessarily so.


End Transmission.......


From a reader...

Ashtavakra Gita



You are neither earth, nor water, nor fire, nor air, nor space. You are the witness of those five elements as Consciousness. Understanding this is liberation.



If you detach yourself from the identification with the body and remain relaxed in and as Consciousness, you will, this very moment, be happy, at peace, free from bondage.



Right and wrong, happiness and sorrow, are all attributes of the mind. You are neither the do-er nor the enjoy-er, you who have ever and always been free of all such attachments.



You are that Consciousness – Supreme Peace – upon which appears this phenomenal manifestation, like the illusion of a snake on a rope. Live happily.



The Atman is the sole Witness, all-pervading, perfect, free Consciousness – actionless, unattached, desireless, at peace with itself. It is only through an illusion that it appears to be involved in samsara.



You are unattached, actionless, self-effulgent, without blemish. This indeed is your bondage, that you practice meditation (as the doing of an ego, with expectation).



Know that which has form to be unreal and the formless to be the real.



Just as the surface of a mirror exists within and without the image reflected in the mirror, so also the supreme Self exists within and without the physical body.



Just as the all-pervading space is both inside and outside the pot, so also the eternal all-pervading Consciousness is immanent in all beings and objects.



Just as waves foam and bubbles are not different from the water, so also the phenomenal universe appearing in Consciousness is not different from it.



Why try to teach a pig to sing? You waste your time and you annoy the pig.



Knowledge, the knower and that which is known – the intellectual triad in phenomenality – do not exist in Reality. I am that stainless Consciousness in which this triad appears through ignorance.



How remarkable! In me, the limitless ocean, the waves of individual selves arise according to their inherent nature, meet and play with one another for a while, and then disappear.



The heart of the Jnani is not touched by virtue and vice, just as the sky is not affected by smoke even though it might appear so.



Who can prevent the Self-realized one, who has known the Unicity of the unmanifest Noumenon and the phenomenal manifestation, from acting as he wishes (spontaneously)?



Since you are pure, unattached Beingness, all that is necessary is the dissolution of the illusion of the ‘me’ as the individual ‘doer’ into the noumenal ‘I’.



In the knowledge that you are perfection itself, the potential fullness of Plenum, unchangeable in misery and happiness, hope and despair, life and death, do enter into the state of dissolution without any fear.



Is there any stage or age when interrelated opposites have not affected people? The one who disidentifies himself from them and is content with whatever comes to him spontaneously, in the ordinary course, attains liberation.



Intentions are the root of samsara. Therefore, the abandoning of intention and volition means dispassion with the world and freedom from bondage.


In the conviction that happiness and misery, birth and death, are parts of the natural process of causality, the man of wisdom, without any need to accomplish anything, is free from anxiety, and does not identify himself with anything he happens to be doing.



In the conviction that this manifested universe, wondrous though it may be in the magnificence and diversity of its phenomena, is truly illusory, the man of wisdom, without any desires identified with the pure Consciousness, remains in noumenal peace.



Having fully realized that deliberately abstaining from action is as much the outcome of ignorance as the volitional action, the man of wisdom abides in his natural state.



Thinking on the Unthinkable means merely another aspect of conceptualizing and objectivizing. Having realized this, the man of wisdom abides in his natural state.



Clearly understanding that nothing is actually ‘done’ in Reality, the man of wisdom remains established in his natural state, witnessing whatever happens.



Having realized his identity with the supreme Absolute, the Witness, there is complete indifference both to bondage and liberation, and the man of wisdom feels no concern even for enlightenment.



You are not the body, nor does the body belong to you. You are neither the doer nor the experiencer. You are Consciousness Itself, the eternal Impersonal Witness. Live in peace.



All keep exerting themselves, and yet find themselves unhappy. They do not realize that it is this very volitional effort, based on desire, that brings about unhappiness. It is only through this very understanding that the blessed one reached awakening.



One who has an aversion for sense objects is considered a renunciate, and one who covets them is considered sensual. But one who neither rejects nor covets is the one who is not concerned with them.



Activity begets attachment; abstention from activity generates aversion. Rid of the bondage of opposites, the wise man, established in the Self, lives like a child.



One who is attached to samsara wants to renounce it in order to free himself from misery. But one who is not so attached continues to remain in samsara and yet lives happily.



Rare in the world is the one on whom experiences do not leave impressions, and who does not hanker after any experiences still to be enjoyed.



It is possible to find in this world those who crave sensual gratification and also those who hanker after enlightenment. But rare indeed is the great one who cares neither for material enjoyment nor spiritual enlightenment.



The man of wisdom does not wish for the dissolution of the universe, nor is he interested in its continuance. The blessed one lives perfectly contented with whatever turns up in life, neither abhorring objects of the senses, nor coveting them.



For the man of wisdom who has transcended dualities such as ‘this is completed’ and ‘that is still to be completed’, how can there be any question of duty, wealth, sense-enjoyment or discrimination?



He who perceives the universe as universe may have to deny its existence. But he who is without concepts is not concerned with the universe. He perceives it, and yet does not see it as something to be concerned about.



He who perceives Brahman as something separate from himself may have to meditate on the principle ‘I am Brahman’. But he who has transcended all conceptualization and thus sees nothing as other than Consciousness, has No-thing to meditate upon.



He who experiences distractions in himself finds it necessary to control such distractions, but what is there for the sage to do, who has not identified himself with any distractions?



The sage is content to do whatever he is expected to be doing in his particular circumstance, but is not really involved either in the doing or the non-doing of it.



The steady one, not interested in contentious reasoning and mentation, is free from conceptualization and is therefore always in repose. He has transcended thinking, knowing, hearing and perceiving.



The identified individual with a sense of volition acts even if he is not acting. On the other hand, the enlightened being, without any sense of personal doership, does not act even if there is action.



Neither by action nor by inaction does an ignorant person attain tranquility; the wise one becomes tranquil merely by understanding what tranquility is.



The ignorant person does not attain liberation in spite of various disciplines and methods for controlling the mind. The blessed one stands established in the Self merely through intuitive understanding.



With the split-mind healed into its holy Wholeness by the mere listening to the Truth, and with total serenity prevailing continually, the awakened sage is not concerned with the propriety or otherwise of any action, nor with inaction.



Though pleased, the sage is not pleased; though dejected, he is not dejected, though angry, he is not angry. Only those who are like him will understand this wonderful state of Beingness.



There are some who believe in the existence of the phenomenal manifestation, and there are other who believe that the phenomenal manifestation does not exist. It is only the rare one who is not concerned with such concepts, and is therefore always serene, merely witnessing whatever happens.



Those with an immature intellect may believe that the Atman is pure and without a second, yet they want to experience the Atman phenomenally as an independent entity. Therefore, they continue to be unhappy.



The intellect of the seeker seeking enlightenment cannot function without a corresponding object as its support. The intellect of the liberated being is not limited and restricted by any desire even for liberation.



He whose sense of personal doership has dropped off through intuitive in-seeing of his true nature finds no reason to speak or do anything, even though in the eyes of the ordinary people he leads a normal working life.



The man of wisdom is devoid of thought even when he is thinking; he is devoid of sense organs even though he is endowed with it. He is devoid of the ego, even though he possesses it.



The liberated one who abides in the Self under all conditions, who is free of the concepts of action and duty, who is totally without desires, remains unconcerned with all actions that take place, and does not brood over what has been done and what has not been done.




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28 comments:

Visible said...

I have added something to the end of the posting

Richard said...

Mas and Mas Visible

Does the dog howl at the New Moon ?

ahrooo, wooof wooof.

Indeed everything has a crack in it .... that's how the Divine light shine in. Thank you again for making 'things' more Visible.

May your 'crack' continue to widen.

Be well, be Alert.
Love
R

P.S. For 14 years i have had the pleasure of driving a used ( and abused ) '98 golf, having invested the time and coloured papers to repair and provide maintenance, it has not once left me without transportation on a road, even having resurrected from an accident where it was written-off by the insurance. May your new, for you, 'horse' be as dependable.

Now i find that the proof text for the comment has ' necessity caddie'. Synchronicity.

Anonymous said...

via Homer..

Astavakra was the predecessor of Sankaracarya. Adi Sankaracarya who did indeed learn from Astavakra and ultimately expanded beyond the Advaitan Mayavadi impersonalist conceptions and at the end of his life arrive at the feet of the Supreme Person.

Thus Bhaja Govindam was originally known as Moha Mudgara, the remover of delusions.

"Worship Govinda, Worship Govinda, Worship Govinda. Oh fool! Rules of Grammar will not save you at the time of your death."

Bhaja Govindam
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Lord Indra Battling the Demons

"As such, the Vaisnavas do not take this cosmic manifestation to be false. The Vaisnava philosopher sees everything in this material world in relationship with the Supreme Lord."

The Mayavada School

Richard said...

Mas and Mas Visible

golf(a) in Spanish is the colloquasim for 'slut' .

of course 'co-locar'- means to 'put in the place of'- the corresponding place. or ' just as crazy as'. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KwmRxrPgn4

May you put 'Suzanne' in her proper place in your Heart.
Be well, be Alert
Love
R

Anonymous said...

Mas and mas Visible

perhaps the challenge in ' the yin within the Yang' is the quantum jump from ' Suzanne' to ' Marianne?.

perhaps.

Be well, be Alert
Love
R

Visible said...

What the???? My relationship with Susanne is, I suspect, on a higher level than most relationships I am aware of and our friendship is wonderful. We get along remarkably well and anyone who has visited here could tell you.

I am moving on because the ineffable wants that and so everyone is in accord. The apparent reason (being the dangers created by what I write) is nothing more than the convenient excuse. It's altogether possible that nothing will change between us and this will just be like it was when I was spending six months in Italy on my own.

I must have missed something because I can't make any sense out of those comments.

richard said...

Mas and Mas Visible

Without a doubt.

Whatever it may be that you have missed in my comments, it would not be for the first time, thus it is nothing unusual or uncommon for your missing out or my comments.

What is new is that your buttons do not react with an attack, but a willingness to question.

Robert P. may share with you our communication many months back, that depends on you, him and the Divine Will, after all it is all for ' purposes of demon-stration', including 'Marianne'.


All is one, One is All, depending upon the level of perception and action, is the 'mutual experience'.

New Moon in Aries. Robert P.

Be well, be Alert.
Love
R

Visible said...

Oh, I see, it was to see what my buttons would do. In every case I respond specifically in kind at the level of what is given which I've said many times is the rule of thumb here. So it is that it is never an attack from me but always a response to an attack on me. Of course this is true because I would have nothing to reply to if it were me initiating it.

I have no idea who Marianne is and no memory of whatever it was that Robert might have (but probably didn't) share with me. In any case, back to work... heh heh.

Ray B. said...

John, I left a comment at the last Petri Dish in response to your 'Aurora' posting there, in case you've moved on...

Best Wishes,
Ray B.

Anonymous said...

Susanne and Marianne--eponymous characters of songs by Leonard Cohen.


Mandocello

Visible said...

Okay... I got that but... what I don't get is the context or how that relates to me all I saw was the immediate surface and my first thought of any Susanne would be my own Susanne. Then I thought the Marianne thing was somehow about Marianne Williamson.

I think a lot of the time people think I'm being difficult when I am just being unemotionally direct in order to figure out what I don't understand at the time and that's the gospel truth.

DumbGoyNot said...

Hey Les,

I thought you might find this to be interesting:

I posted a comment in the comments section following an article titled '1892 Veterans Have Committed Suicide In 2014', that was posted on WhatReallyHappened.com today.

Here's the comment I posted:

They stirred up a hornets nest of demons when they invaded Iraq, demons that have been there for thousands of years. In fact, it is probably the biggest demonic hotbed in the world (with the possible exception of Washington DC). Due to ancient curses done there, the demonic oppression the soldiers are under can be unbearable. Conversely, the politicians probably enjoy the demonic presence as they are rewarded by the kingdom of darkness for their miscreant behavior.

Then I went away and forgot about it. But then I got to thinking about what I had written and I got to feeling a little guilty about it because of what I said about the politicians, here's why: Sometimes people get themselves into messes by evoking demonic power in order to gain power or money or both, but later they regret it and wish they hadn't done it, and would change their mind if they could, but by then the demonic control in their lives has grown to the point where they can't quit what they're doing. But some of them would like to quit, and would do it if they could. But they know there is the potential for all kinds of retribution, from things going wrong, to receiving death threats, harm to family members, IRS audits, etc.

And that is why I felt guilty, because I made a judgment, and then being reminded that only the Lord is qualified to be making judgments, because scripture says he judges people's heart (their true inner thoughts), more so than their actions. Humans judge one another because of the things they do, the Lord judges people because of why they do the things they do.

DumbGoyNot said...

Hey Les,

Even though this is somewhat off the subject, here's another thing I thought you might find to be interesting:


This afternoon I received a bulletin from Dudley Brown asking for support for his agenda of waking people up about the NWO gun control agenda, to which I wrote this reply:

Dear Dudley,

I totally agree with you and with what you're doing, but I see it all as more or less and exercise in futility, because most Americans are being continually programmed via the media to make choices that are against their best interest. Therefore, I think the main thing we should be concentrating on is informing the public that their true enemy is the media. All the other problems (e.g. gun control) are only secondary problems. As long as most Americans are watching TV and movies every day, gun control is only a few steps away.

galen said...

Vis, after reading some of these comments I was feeling a bit of that confused intimidation that sometimes gets thrown into the mix. You handled it well; me, not so graceful, at least in reacting to it. I guess it reminded me of this incident from several years ago:


An associate said to me,"Galen, the Space-brothers are going to come and help us." 

"Oh yeah," said I, "When are they coming?" 

She smiled a deep smile: "When we're all vibrating at JOY." 

I moved close to her face and sharply talked directly to it: "When we're all vibrating at Joy?! When we're all vibrating at JOY?! Who the hell needs them then? Tell them to get their ass down here NOW!!"

We laughed hardily.

Then she said the usual, "You know, they don't want to interfere." 

Interfere!" cried I. "Interfere NOW!!"


True Story.

And every time I get to thinking about those "helpful" aliens, I put out my own litmus test: If they generate any fear in me, they can go right back where they came from. 

Long ago I read that Suzuki Roshi did not use the Koan at his monastery. He felt the students were already going through so much, so much struggle and confusion. He didn't want to add to that. That was one of the most compassionate things I've ever heard, and it stayed with me all these years.

Why is there such a strong urge for one-upmanship?

===

DumbGoyNot said...

Hey Les,

Man, I apologize for going on and on (so please be patient with me), but here's one more thing I thought you might find interesting:

Today I received an email from Greg Hunter (revisionist historian who posts lots of YouTube interviews with whistleblowers) in which he told me that the Nazis tattooed ID numbers on the Khazars (so-called 'Jews'), the inference being that it was proof that they planned to use them as slave labor, not to kill them. So I wrote him this reply:

Hey Greg,

I had heard about the Nazis putting tattoos on the Khazars but I didn't pay attention to the importance of it until I read your email. It stands to reason that if the Nazis were planning on eliminating them they wouldn't have bothered with tattooing them with ID numbers. I wish the truth about all this would come out on a large scale, but I doubt if it will happen in our lifetime seeing as how most Americans aren't interested in anything like this, all they want is to watch TV and movies, dink around with their computers, and be well-fed and comfortable. Most of them couldn't care less about the truth, much less standing up for it.

Anonymous said...

Good Lord, Les....
I started with this essay and my Kindle took me here..http://www.visibleorigami.com/search?updated-min=2006-01-01T00:00:00%2B01:00&updated-max=2007-01-01T00:00:00%2B01:00&max-results=18...for some reason...and it all converged...you see I was 'groomed' myself, pre-pubescent, and I've been dealing with that all my life...and your mentioning the 'material' aspect of the feminine in this dark age resonates. They're comforting, your words, and they answer questions.
A practice or habit may be a 'sin' to one and not another...physical love between men may be fine for some and not others depending on the motivation - it is not good for me.
As Robert E. Lee said when asked 'why don't you drink, don't you like liquor?" He replied, 'oh, I like it alright, a lot...that's why I don't drink it'.
Being 'groomed' is not a good thing, it is both psychic and physical rape. It skews one's perspective.

Moving on, when Jesus began to preach, he said ' The kingdom of heaven is at hand'...'at hand' close enough to touch...right here.
So simple to choose sides, and faith is a decision...a world where
love rules, or self-interest? Which world would anyone rather live in?
As Mr. T was fond of saying, 'pity the fools'.
Thanks, Namaste,
-the beggar

Anonymous said...

"Some will see Hell on Earth and some will see Heaven on Earth..."

There is an amazing scene in the film 'Baron Munchhausen' where the Baron and his friends, trapped inside a gigantic whale, argue whether they are in heaven or hell. Of course it's a hell, but they don't all know it.
May God, ineffable as God is, Grant us proper discernment.
-the beggar (among Saints)

"Asanga said that all dharmas are at their root, inexpressable. But he also said, 'now, since all dharmas have thus inexpressable essential nature, why is expression at all applicable? Verily, because without expression, the inexpressable true nature could not be told to others, nor heard by others."
Keep on expressin' Les!

Unknown said...

As a voice once said to me "You're not where you think you are, but you are close."

JLKGreystone

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the wonderful addendum to todays post. :)

Actually, I made a pig sing once and then found out it wasn't the pig afterall, just me. :( Not pretty.

Then I put the lipstick on it and, oh man, did that make it all the more worse! :)

Well, Vis, I'm sure you will move on soon to whatever it is that is coming next for you... and you've written before about your, "Catch and release policy."

I understand that policy, but I'm not at the point of implementing it like you might. I'm really not trying invoke certain emotions in you (yeah, like I could), it's just that the thought of you saying good bye to Poncho (for the moment) makes me tear up a little bit. :(

I picture myself doing that with my doggie and........

Well, anyway...

So, at your suggestion, I spent some time with the Ineffable this weekend (on purpose, like you suggested in your posts). We had a peaceful and pleasant time together, and some fun (even those 2 seats I requested at a place my wife and I enjoy... crazy busy there but we got those seats anyway...) Nice. Not so much the seats, but the peace...

Looks like I'm rambling again so I'll stop here. :) Thanks for putting your writing out there.

Jim

missingarib said...

Vis, you expressed the essence of it most clearly here:"You try the metal of it by personal experience, through example or through a resonance in the heart. How can it be of any value to you unless you have proven it out? How can you have faith in it unless it is real to you?"-

The love of the one for the many --amor enim in multis--
Merchant of Venice:
The quality of mercy is not strain'd.
It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven
Upon the place beneath. It is twice blest:
It blesseth him that gives and him that takes.

bless you,Vis
live long

Visible said...

Yeah... I try not to think about the Poncho factor but... I am thinking of him, which is why I am leaving him here because he is better off and he has the others too. Where I am going is a huge Belgian Shepherd that shows his dominance to the other dog who is there. I wouldn't subject the ponch to that.

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At the heart of the matter, one upsmanship is an expression of basic insecurity; of what not being fully convinced of what they purport to represent. People secure in their faith don't argue.

insiam said...

@dumbgoynot.....

God (or the 'ineffable' - as i have much come to prefer as a more fitting term since visiting these blogs. See Visibles recent description) .... does not punish wrong doers. He simply observes without judgement. God - the ineffable - is by true nature not at all about punishing or judging.

Bad deeds, words, ill intent, etc. etc. attract bad energy which will at any given time result in 'self punishment'. Self inflicted - or karmic if you prefer. The ineffables (Gods/Lords) hand has no hand in what one may have attracted. Good or bad.

It seems quite naive from my current personal understanding for people to constantly ask 'why does God not punish all those wrong doers.'

If God - the ineffable - were to be in the business of doling out punishment then he by definition would not be God. This is not how the ineffable works. Simple observation shows this to be 100% true. Thus rendering the age old question 'why God' completely moot.

So Dumbgoynot - whether 'they' quit now or later a price will be paid. But, God will have no hand in what is to be paid. 'They' will have attracted what is due by their own hand. God does not judge or punish.

Hope that makes sense. Well it does to me :)

insiam said...

Hmmm, not wanting to juge and all that ..... b ut having read over dumbgoynot's comments i somehow get the distinct impression that, as we are fond of saying in England, he is 'taking the piss' ....

or a to least he is attempting to :)

also, a lot of what 'not a dumb goy' says can be more easily understood depending on how one interprets the implication of his name. hmmmmmm!

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on the other, it makes sense to me too.

Anonymous said...

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Victory over self-works the same.

One can easily win in one move.

Simply walk away.

There is no fight in surrender.

By the way, the Devil cannot see you, if no offense is entertained.

No sense in, pole vaulting mouse turds. It’s all a Fame mind.

Just, sex and caviar

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